upon the subject. He probably writes from personal knowledge, I from inference. J. R. (Cork.) Lady Barbara Mowbray and Elizabeth Curle (Vol. v., p. 517.). - Of these two ladies, so loyally attached to their unfortunate mistress Queen Mary of Scotland, your correspondent NHRSL is desirous of obtaining some authentic information. Of Lady Barbara I am not at present enabled to furnish any particulars; but of the Curle family I may perhaps afford a clue to the inquiry of NHRSL, from documents in my possession relating to the settlement of the estate of St. Katharine's Hall, commonly known as St. Kattern's, Somerset, which in 1594, 36th Eliz., was the property of William Blanchard, from whom it descended to Henry Blanchard; who, in October, 1690, married Querinah Curle, and in 1748 the estate passed to Querinah, the heir of the Blanchard family, and then the wife of Thomas Parry, of St. Katharine's Hall. They had issue John Parry, M.A., Rector of Sturmer, co. Essex; Querinah, who married W. Milles Cobb, of Ringwood; and Elizabeth, who married Henry Knight, of Bath. The Blanchard and Curle families were staunch adherents of the royal cause during the civil wars, and I have evidence of the esteem entertained by King Charles for the then owner of St. Kattern's just before the battle of Lansdowne. I am also in possession of a portrait of Querinah Curle, painted by Sir Peter Lely. I have given these minute particulars in order to afford NHRSL a means of prosecuting his inquiries through other channels that may present themselves, and I feel fully persuaded that a perfect genealogy of the Curle, and also of the Blanchard families, would amply repay a diligent and careful investigation. Aylestone, Leicestershire. J. P. A. KNIGHT. Parallel Passages (Vol. vi., p. 123.).-P. C. S. S. owns that he is too dull to perceive any parallelism between the Cromwellian complexion of Sylla and the "cream-smothered strawberries" of the young lady's mouth, as described in the Irish song. He would be glad if a precise reference to the passages in Mrs. Gray's Etruria, in which allusion is made to the mulberry tincture of Sylla's face, as he has vainly sought for it through both volumes of that ingenious and imaginative work. But in Plutarch's Life of Sylla there is a passage which undoubtedly furnished the parallelism which MR. H. L. TEMPLE has detected: “ Καὶ τῶν ̓Αθήνησι γεφυριστῶν ἐπέσχωψέ τις είς τουτο ποιήσας, and in my more candid moments I am not quite without fear that I may have an unreasonable suspicion of those who are. At all events, I do not believe all that they tell me, especially about the local use of words. For instance, I believe that one of the words given at p. 152. as "quite peculiar" to certain colonies established in Pembro brokeshire and Glamorganshire, belongs equally to Somersetshire. When I lived in that county, I heard a story of what was said to have occurred at a trial on the Western Circuit, which may illustrate the matter, and was in substance as follows: Counsel (to witness). Well then, you saw so and so? Witness. No, zur, a coud'n zee nothing. Counsel. Could not see when you were close by? Why could not you see? Witness. 'Caus of the pilm, zur. , Judge (after a pause, to Counsel). Mr. do you know what the witness means by "pilm?" Counsel. No, my Lud, I do not recollect to have met with the word in the whole course of my reading. Judge (to witness). My good man, what is "pilm?" Witness. Mucksadroud, your honour. How much information the Court and counsel gained from the explanation, I do not take upon me to say; but I think it indicates that "muck" or "mucks," in a state of dryness or " drought," may become pilm over a wider extent of country than your correspondent supposes. As to the origin of the word, of course Dr. Dry-as-dust would be the best authority. I do not venture to give an opinion myself. N. B. Pickigni (Vol. vi., pp. 75. 160.). - F. A.'s "old dictionary" is Cole's, which contains the explanation he gives, and which is substantially the same as Blount's. The word itself is a misspelling of Picquigny, a town in Picardy, where was treacherously murdered at a conference William Longue Espée, Duke of Normandy, and where was held the celebrated congress between Louis XI. and our Edward IV. Its position the frontier made it of importance in the early wars one hand, and the Flemings between France on the near and Bourguinons on the other. The shibboleth, no doubt, consisted in a double peculiarity of French pronunciation, included in the word qu for k, and the gn mouillé as it is termed, which cannot be exactly expressed by letters, but is most nearly represented by ni, as grognard, a grumbler, is pronounced groniard. C. Large Families: Mrs. Honeywood. - The following Note respecting the progeny of Mrs. Mary Honeywood, I obtained from a Kentish paper, probably the ensuing number to that from which MR. KING procured the extract printed at p. 106. rest the type of one thousand years' millennium, or of "N. & Q." Vol. vi. : "A PROLIFIC KENTISH WOMAN. "Sir, In your last there was a paragraph under this head referring to a monument in Lincoln Cathedral, to one of the numerous descendants of Mrs. Mary Honeywood. As it is not quite accurate in point of numbers, allow me to correct it by mentioning another monument to the same family, and much nearer home. In Lenham church, north of the chancel, is a very remarkable inscription on the tomb of Robert Thompson, Esq., which states, 'that he was grandchild to Mary Honeywood of Charing, who had at her decease 367 children lawfully descended from her: sixteen of her own body, 114 grandchildren, 228 in the third generation, and nine in the fourth.' These nine are omitted in your paragraph. Mrs. Honeywood lies buried in this church, though her monument is at Mark's Hall, near Cogshall in Essex, which at the time of her death was the residence of Lieut.-Gen. Phillip Honeywood." NONREGLA. There was a Clock Mottoes (Vol. v., p. 285.). large turret clock upon the stables at Stanlake in Berkshire, the seat for many generations of the Aldworth family, my paternal ancestors. The face of the dial showed the date of 1688, encircled with the word Revolution in large characters. It happened that, exactly a century afterwards, my father ordered the clock to be repaired, when the painter spoiled the Whig joke by altering the date from 1688 to 1788, and was much disgusted at being directed to restore the original figures, which, I believe, still remain as an indication of the political sentiments of the former proprietors BRAYBROOKE. of the old mansion. Was William the Conqueror buried without a Coffin? (Vol. vi., p. 35.). -Thierry, in his History of the Norman Conquest, book vii., says: "The king's corpse had been dressed in the royal habit and robe, but was not in a coffin. On its being placed in the grave constructed of masonry, which was found to be too narrow (vas breve structum erat), it was then requisite to force the body in, which caused it to burst." Incense and perfumes were burned, but without avail; the people hurried away. "Sacerdotes itaque," as Ord. Vit. goes on to state, "festinabant exequias perficere," and the place was soon deserted, even by them. It is evident, from this account, that the body was conveyed uncoffined to the grave. Ordericus was twelve years old when the Conqueror died. COWGILL. Six Thousand Years (Vol. vi., p. 131.). - At the end of a volume of Sermons, by the Rev. Coleman, Ventnor, A. A. D. will find it stated that the six-days' creation was a type of the six thousand years ("one day being equal to one thousand years," quoted as proof), and one day's Christ's second advent; that "of that day no one knoweth," applies simply to our ignorance of true chronology, though the author has faith in Clinton. As the subject has been alluded to in "N. & Q.," I would suggest that it would meet with its master if the learned Warburton lecturer at Lincoln's Inn could be induced by any friend to forward a few lines. I imagine that he anticipates the Papacy to end about the time that Mr. Coleman, and the reverend gentlemen named at page 131., believe that the world will. A. C. In reply to A. A. D.'s question as to the world lasting six thousand years, I would remark that as a boy I was taught that the world would most likely be of about six thousand years' duration; but the reason given was that the Deluge took place about two thousand years after the Creation, and our Saviour's sojourn in the world about two thousand years later, and therefore the end of the world will be at the termination of the next period of two thousand years. BYARD. Yolante de Dreux (Vol. vi., p. 150.). - Jolanda, or Joleta, widow of Alexander III. King of Scotland, married in 1284, left a widow, without issue, 1285. Married, secondly, Arthur I. Duke of Bretaigne; died 1322; had issue one son and five daughters. 66 J. Y. Sacrum pingue dabo" (Vol. vi., p. 36.). - If it may lead to the identifying of the author of this line, I would state that it forms one out of many, which together constitute a poem on Cain and Abel. I well remember reading it, years ago; and I think I am right in fancying that it was described as a monkish performance. Whence comes another line, much more curious than the one under consideration, viz.: "Roma tibi subito motibus ibit amor?" This line reads the same backwards as forwards, and, of course, is a pentameter either way. BEOTICUS. Edgmond, Salop. Similitude of an Eagle in a Braken Stalk (Vol. vi., p. 35.). - If MARICONDA will cut the stalk of the fern, not straight across, but slantingly, he will find a very fair representation of the spread-eagle, as exhibited on Austrian coins or stamps. C. I. R. Muffs worn by Gentlemen (Vol. v., p. 560.).- In NO. 39. of the Tatler, Don Salteir is ordered to take down certain objects in his museum, under pain of having his letters patent for making punch superseded, being debarred wearing his muff next winter, &c. &c. J. K. Dutch Porcelain (Vol. v., p. 343.). - What is the etymology of the word porcelaine? Douce, Queen Mary's Seal (Vol. vi., p. 36.).-The white "crystal seal" referred to is sold by the attendants at Holyrood House to the visitors. Query, has E. A. S. got the original or a copy? Concerning the controversy about the arms, see the negotiations in Lodge's Illustrations of British History, vol. i. p. 396. W. G. John, King of France, at Somerton (Vol. vi., p. 54.). - Extensive and interesting ruins of Somerton Castle, at which it has always been said that John, King of France, was confined, are in existence near the banks of the Witham, about five miles south of Lincoln. Miscellaneous. NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC. 0. 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