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mine upon claiming an investigation into his conduct. Here was a letter signed by twenty-three officers, of the high birth, talents, and rank of which the House had heard so much, arraigning the character and conduct of their superior officer. He would ask again, what course could this old and meritorious officer pursue? He might, to be sure, have retired; but if he had, he must have retired from society with disgrace. It was not colonel Quentin, therefore, that forced on the Court-martial, but those who wrote that letter.

The right hon. gentleman said, it was hard these officers should have been called upon to produce a letter to criminate themselves. It appeared, then, that the officers were aware of the nature of that Jetter; they knew, that if they could not substantiate the charges which they had preferred against their commander, they must submit to the consequence that would inevitably result: they knew that the step they were taking was contrary to the discipline of the army, and that nothing could justify that step, but their proving the material charges which they had preferred against their commanding officer. The right hon. gentleman, however, seemed, in a great part of his speech, to have confined himself entirely to the first letter; he seemed to have forgotten the second letter, written by major Robarts, which contained a direct and unequivocal charge of cowardice against colonel Quentin; and indeed it could not be doubted, that that was the real meaning intended to be conveyed in the first letter. The right hon. gentleman had contended, that these officers were punished for having concurred in opinion with the duke of Wellington and lord Combermere; but the fact was quite the reverse: they were punished for asserting what those great officers had never asserted; they were punished for preferring charges of cowardice against their commanding officer, which they were unable to prove. In one of the charges they certainly did concur with the duke of Wellington and lord Combermere, but it was one of the least of the accusations which they had brought against their superior officer, and for that he had been previously reprimanded by the duke; and he believed it would be a new case in British jurisprudence, to punish a man twice for the same offence.

The right hon. gentleman had said a great deal upon the subject of favouritism, and had complained that these gallant

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young officers were dismissed, while the colonel, who had been in part found guilty, had been suffered to remain in command over a parcel of mutinous soldiers. But what was the fact? These young officers had entered into a conspiracy against their commanding officer. [Here there was a cry of order, order!] He did not mean to use the word in an invidious sense; he had before said, that he was convinced that their conduct was influenced by honourable, though erroneous, principles; and he could not be suspected of wishing to speak harshly of them, for there were among those officers some near connections of his own. Those officers had, however, conspired together to prefer charges against their superior officer, an officer of great experience and of excellent character; and some of those charges, let it always be remembered, affected the life and the honour of that officer: of those charges he was acquitted. What, then, must be the result? The accusers and the accused could not be suffered to remain together in the same regiment; that would have been quite impossible. Would it have been right to dismiss the colonel, who had been acquitted of the main charges brought against him, and when the only offence of which he was found guilty he had been punished for before? To have dismissed him, therefore, would have been to inflict a second punishment for the same offence, which would have been unjust and unprecedented. It only remained, then, for the crown to act upon the acknowledged principle of the service, and to remove those officers who had brought forward accusations against their commanding officer, which they were unable to substantiate. If the crown had been influenced by favouritism, surely it would have pursueda very different course. If there had existed any wish (to use a vulgar phrase) to curry favour with great people, surely it would have been more easy to remove one old, almost worn out, though meritorious officer, who had not a single connection in the country, than to remove twenty-three young men of the highest rank, pretensions, and connections in the empire.

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He confessed, that he rejoiced in the sentence which was passed in this case, because it would shew to the army and to the public, that neither high birth nor great connections could prevail against justice. It would have a most beneficial effect upon the service; it would teach

young officers not to become generals | before they had learned their duty; it would teach them not to pronounce opinions before they were competent to form judgments. Every man at all acquainted with the army, must know that such a lesson would be most salutary. He recollected an expression of a noble relation of his, who said, when some young officers joined him, who entertained a high opinion of their own military proficiency, "They don't know how to mount a guard, but they are all ready to manœuvre an army of 80,000 men.' The proceedings in this case would be of great use to the army; it would prove to the young officers of high birth, how little their rank or connections would avail them, if they were not attentive to their duty. [This part of the right hon. gentleman's speech was accompanied with loud and repeated cheers.] He should now conclude with declaring his conviction, that no parliamentary ground had been laid for the production of these papers; he should therefore vote against the motion, being satisfied that the most dangerous consequences would ensue, if parliament were to assume to itself the right of reversing the decisions of courts-martial, unless some extraordinary case were made out, which would call imperiously for its interference.

Mr. Vyse spoke shortly in defence of the decision of the Court-martial, of which his hon. relative had been president, and who, in the anxious duty which he had to perform, had been guided by no private or partial motives. He opposed the motion, on the ground that it was unnecessary, and entered into a short review of the evidence submitted to the Court-martial. He maintained, that there was only a part, and a small part, of the first charge proved, with respect to the foraging party being left without orders. He objected to the principle, that the House of Commons should constitute itself into a court of appeal from courts-martial. Cases might occur of such an extraordinary description as to require their interference; but the dispersion of the officers of the 10th, under the circumstances, was not such a case. He concluded by paying a compliment to the officers, whose conduct in the field entitled and obtained for them the approbation and gratitude of their country.

Mr. Brand said, in the reign of George 2, in 1745, the House had, in one case, thought proper to interfere with the de

cision of a court-martial, in the case of captain Norris, when, in the teeth of Mr. Pelham, the minister of that day, they had voted the proceedings to be partial, arbitrary, and illegal.' The hon. gentleman contended, that the case of the twenty-six officers did not fall under the sense of the General Order quoted by the right hon. the Judge Advocate General; neither did any of the arguments that had been used apply to that of the hon. colonel, who only obeyed the commands of his superior officers. It was admitted also on every side, that the hon. colonel had conducted himself, in the delicate situation in which he was placed, with a degree of temper, candour, and forbearance, which had never been exceeded. There certainly was nothing in the sentence of the court-martial to justify the sentence of the Horse Guards. If that sentence had been founded upon the plea that the Courtmartial had censured the want of cooperation on the part of the officers, he should then be able to see some sort of ground for what he must call a most arbitrary measure. A right hon. gentleman oposite had used the epithet conspiracy; but surely, if that right hon. gentleman had rightly and maturely considered the case, he would have abstained from such an expression. Whatever variety of opinions, however, might now exist, there was one thing to be remembered, that when the Act of Settlement should be resumed, as it would be, he believed, on the 17th of next June, the commission of colonel Quentin would be annulled, as he was not naturalised; and he should be glad when that period arrived. He hoped, also, from the experience of the past, that the House would pause before it renewed the suspension of that Act. Supposing there were more Hanoverians in our service than there were at present, he should like to know what might probably have been the consequence even of the present measure? That was a case which the wisdom of our ancestors had not overlooked. The provisions of the Act of Settlement, relating to the introduction of foreign troops, had been framed with a special view to the Dutch guards; and he trusted that the safeguards which had been handed down to us would not be thrown aside, but upon grave and urgent necessity.

Mr. Serjeant Best said, that whoever looked at the list of the names of those officers that had been dismissed from the

10th regiment, must be convinced, that his royal highness the Prince Regent, in acting as he had done, had sacrificed much of private feeling to public duty. With regard to the general merits of the question, nothing, he apprehended, could be more obvious than the necessity of removing officers from a regiment when they had preferred charges against their superior officer, which they failed in proving. No man could look at the charges brought against colonel Quentin, and say, that the officers preferring them could continue to serve with colonel Quentin. A right hon. gentleman had said, that his Royal Highness had forgotten his character as colonel, and had acted unconsciously in his capacity as Regent; but, for his own part, he could not conceive it possible for his Royal Highness, as colonel, to have acted otherwise than he did. If he had not so acted, after knowing the existence of a letter that imputed cowardice to colonel Quentin, it might indeed have been said with propriety, that his Royal Highness was influenced by a principle of favouritism, in screening colonel Quentin from that public investigation which such a charge imperatively demanded. LookLooking at the result of the Court-martial, he was convinced that the sentence which had been passed was the mildest that could have been passed, consistently with the good of the service. How was the discipline of the army to go on, if that sort of combination was allowed? The precedent quoted by the honourable member who spoke last, did not apply to the present case. There the court-martial was distinctly accused of partial, corrupt, and illegal proceedings, and consequently, those proceedings were a fit subject for the inquiry of that House. But would it be said, that similar accusations were or could be preferred against the Court-martial which sat on colonel Quentin? That was the broad distinction between the two cases. He deprecated the practice of considering that House as a court of appeal; such, he contended, it never could be; but, above all, to increase the facility of receiving appeals from courts-martial, would only tend to overturn the constitution, and destroy the discipline of the

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that subordination was equally necessary. The very consideration of the private consequence of these officers would afford one of the most striking lessons to the army.

Sir C. Burrell contended, on the contrary, that the sentence on these officers was one of the harshest measures ever witnessed against men who had so highly distinguished themselves by their gallantry in the field. There was no proof that they had not most zealously co-operated for the benefit of the service. The fourth charge, which was, in his opinion, completely proved, made the censure passed against the officers the hardest possible. Never had men displayed more gallantry against the enemy. He knew of nothing in the evidence which went to prove that there was any want of co-operation if there was, he should vote differently from what he at present intended. Lord Edward Somerset's evidence was conclusive against the opinion; and the censure, on the whole, appeared to him unnecessarily severe.

Mr. Peter Moore said, he would assert, in opposition to what had fallen from the learned serjeant, that there was no other court of appeal but that House from the decisions of civil or military courts. He had the authority of lord Kenyon for saying, there could be no grievance without an appropriate remedy. He could also quote a much higher authority-that of the learned Selden, who was an honour to England. Mr. Selden being once asked by king Charles, what was the remedy for rebellion? replied, remove the cause. Being farther asked, what justified rebellion? his answer was, the custom of the country. The same, he would say, was a sufficient justification of .the interference of the House on the present

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Colonel Palmer shortly replied. The officers, he said, had only done their duty; and the question before the House was one of the highest importance, not only to the essential interests of the army, but to those of the country at large. The statement of the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Tierney), with respect to the letter, was perfectly correct. Colonel Palmer said, he certainly did lay that letter before his royal highness the Prince Regent, but without the slightest idea of its being made use of to the injury of the officers. He did not, indeed, imagine it would be used at all. He still retained his opinion that the sentence of the Court-martial was

not justified by the evidence adduced, as, | in point of fact, it acquitted colonel Quentin, and criminated the officers.

nied by strong threats to refuse all remuneration if that sum should be rejected: and the petitioner further states to the House, The House then divided: For the mo- that these offers and threats were made tion, 37; against it, 144.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

Friday, November 18.

PETITION OF ADMIRAL GRAVES, RESPECTING HIS CLAIM TO ONE-SIXTH OF THE BAHAMA ISLANDS.] Mr. Peter Moore presented a Petition from rear-admiral Graves, setting forth :

to an orphan, young and inexperienced, by the Treasury solicitors, acting also at that time as the solicitors of the said Louisa Carolina Graves, who advised and importuned her acceptance of the offer, while they repeated the threats, and urged the actual occupancy of the islands, to prove her helpless situation, and to show that these threats would be inforced and the petitioner further craves leave to "That the petitioner has sustained a represent to the House, the extreme inheavy grievance, for the redress of which justice and hardship of his case; it is an he has sought in vain from the public de- injustice, because the premises were and partments of the nation; and that the still are forcibly occupied, though no petitioner, in right of his wife Louisa Caro- surrender thereof was ever made or perlina Graves, daughter of the late sir John mitted either by the petitioner or by his Colleton, became entitled, by letters wife, the said Louisa Carolina Graves; it patent, bearing date the 1st November, in is a hardship the more severe, because the the 22nd year of the reign of king Charles property was obtained with so much the second, to one-sixth share of the honour and under so heavy a sacrifice; Bahama Islands, with every right and and the petitioner is thus aggrieved by a royalty thereunto belonging, granted to mode that cannot be defended or palliated sir Peter Colleton, for good causes and upon any ground: the loss sustained comconsiderations moving thereto, from ser- prizes the most princely rights, the lucravices rendered by his father to their tive royalty of wrecks, the customs, with majesties king Charles the first and king power to appropriate the same, extensive Charles the second, at an expense esti-patronage, civil, military, and ecclesias mated from 60,000l. to near 200,000l. besides suffering personal pain and exile by the rebels on account of his loyalty; and that the petitioner is wholly deprived of this property by the civil and military officers of the crown, who, under some pretended authority, occupy and use the same without any legal or sufficient right, either from the petitioner since his marriage, or previous thereto, from his wife the said Louisa Carolina Graves; and that the rights of the petitioner and his wife are not only those of private property, but are also, in their nature, sovereign, consisting of the royalties, duties, customs, and admiralty in and over the said islands; these rights embrace every princely power and sovereign authority, and are such as the petitioner is advised cannot be redressed in the ordinary courts of law, without assent on the part of the crown to plead, which assent has been refused, by denying him all interference: and the petitioner further begs leave to state to the House the offers that were made, long after the premises had been actually occupied, to the said Louisa Carolina Graves, at that time Louisa Carolina Colleton, to give her 2,000l. for her interest therein, accompa

tical, with the proportionate right to the soil, containing more than 6,000,000 of acres, of which nearly 1,000,000 are plantable land, whose productions are of the most valuable description, amongst which may be reckoned silver, copper, salt, and cotton; and that the petitioner, in appealing to the House for redress, wishes the nature of his grievances and every circumstance connected therewith to be ascertained, and petitions only to receive such redress of his grievances as a fair investigation shall induce the House to determine; and he relies on the House to entertain his complaint with all just regard, to protect him against the unjust dealings which the investigation of his grievances will disclose, and, if not redressed, would leave no man in the safe possession of his property, especially colonial property, if the civil and military officers of the crown determine to occupy it by similar compulsion: and the petitioner further begs leave to represent to the House, that the injuries imposed on him have been converted to the very great advantage of the revenues of the crown, as by an examination into the nature and situation of the property will appear, a

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baronies, and to determine the proportion of expense which should be defrayed by each. This was the main object of the Bill which he was about to introduce, and he had therefore thought it expedient to take this opportunity of adding one or two clauses, requiring the magistrate and the constables to take certain oaths, which were set forth in the Bill.

circumstance which the House will perhaps think entitles him more decidedly to their attention; and praying the House to call for the examination of papers and witnesses to admit him and his wife, the said Louisa Carolina Graves, by themselves, their counsel or agents, to the bar, or before a committee of the House, and to take all means known to the usage or precedents of the House for redressing the grievance and protecting the right of the petitioner and of the said Louisa Carolina Graves his wife, and for the preservation of the rever-portance to the prosperity and happiness sionary right of any other member of his family in and to the premises; and to admit, in like manner, any such reversionary claimant of his family, by himself, his counsel or agents, to the bar, or before a committee of the House, as much as if he had been named in this Petition."

Ordered to lie on the table.

He felt, however, that the House had a right to require from him, when speaking in reference to a subject of so much im

of the united kingdom as the internat tranquillity of Ireland, that he should inform them what had been the proceeding adopted by the executive government of Ireland under the act of last session. He had the satisfaction of assuring the House, he had reason to believe that the passing of those acts had been attended with beneficial consequences. To the provisions of IRISH SUPERINTENDING MACISTRATES the Insurrection Act, it had not been, and BILL.] Mr. Peel said, that as he could he most sincerely hoped that it would not anticipate any opposition, or even ob- not be necessary to resort; and the Peace jection, to the Bill which he was about to Preservation Bill had only been called propose, he felt it to be unnecessary to into operation in one single instance, at trouble the House with more than a very the unanimous application of a most nufew words. The House would recollect, merous and respectable meeting of the that in the course of the last session of magistrates of the county of Tipperary. parliament, two very important measures, The barony of Middlethird had been proregarding the preservation of the peace in claimed he had every reason to believe, Ireland, had met with their sanction. By that, in the improved tranquillity of that one of them, the lord-lieutenant was em- district, and the returning habits of subpowered to proclaim any district in Ire- ordination among the lower orders of the land to be in a state of disturbance, and to peasants, the inhabitants had ample comappoint a chief magistrate and a certain pensation for the charge to which the apnumber of special constables, for the su-plication of the Bill had subjected them; perintendance of the general police of the but the good effects of it had been wit district so disturbed. A doubt had arisen, nessed, not merely within the narrow whether, in case that two baronies, adja- sphere to which its operation was nomicent to each other, but situated in diffe-nally confined, but had induced the inharent counties, should be unfortunately disturbed, and it should be necessary to subject them to the operation of the Bill above mentioned-whether, as the Bill now stood, it would not be necessary to appoint a separate establishment of police in each barony; when, from the limited extent of the two, one would be sufficient for the superintendance of both? Now, as the executive government of Ireland had no wish whatever to multiply the number of appointments under the Bill, or to subject the disturbed districts to any charge that was not absolutely necessary, his present object was, to remove any doubt of the nature before mentioned, to enable the lord-lieutenant to appoint a high magistrate and one set of constables for the two

bitants of the neighbouring districts to unite, and to act with energy, for the preservation of the peace, in order that they might escape the tax which the Act would impose, if applied to their districts.

He would take the liberty of adducing one proof of the veracity of his statement. In one of the reports made by Mr. Wilcox, the chief magistrate appointed in Middlethird, it was stated, that the house of a person resident in the barony of Clanwillan, had been attacked and robbed of arms. A party of labourers, having a suspicion of one of the parties concerned in the robbery, took measures for his apprehension; and, headed by a man of the name of Flinn, pursued the robber, and secured him. The man was identified,

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