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Pedigree of the Lucy Family.

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Anne; mar. Thomas Herbert.
Rodegund; mar. ...... Betts.

Barbara; mar. Rich. Tracy, of Stanway, Gloue.

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Mary; mar. Christopher Hales".

Timothy.

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Jane; mar. Geo. son of Sir Rob.Verney, Knt.
Martha.

Joyce.

Thomas 02d w. Dorothya,
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Six Sons.

Six Daughters.

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i Who married, secondly, R. Hungerford, Esq.

Ancestor to the present Earl of Pomfret: the arms are, Arg. a fess Sable between three lions heads erased, Gules.

1 This Sir Thomas, who was knighted by Queen Elizabeth, 1565, was in great intimacy with the good Sir John Pakington (grandfather to the husband of the supposed Authoress of the "Whole Duty of Man"), a privy-counsellor and great favourite of Queen Elizabeth. It was this Sir Thomas that our bard Shakspeare took the liberty of lampooning in a ballad, for his resentment against him for his practised dear-stealing. The arms of Acton were, Argent, a chevron between three cinquefoils Gules.

n Ancestor to the Hales of Coventry. (Baronets.)

• Knighted by Queen Elizabeth, 1592, in his father's life-time.

P Arms of Kingsmill: Arg. crusuly Sab. a chevron Erm. between three fer-de-molines of the second.

4 By this wife he had issue Thomas, who died young; and Joyce married to Sir William Cook, of Higham, Gloucestershire, Knt.

This Sir Thomas was ancestor to the family now residing at Charlecote, of whom in December 1786, George Lucy, Esq. departed this life at his seat there. The latest descendant is the present Rev. J. Lucy.

Second son of Sir John Spencer, of Althorpe, in co. Northampton, Knt. Their arms were, quarterly, Argent and Gules, in the 2d and 3d quarters a fret Or, over all, on a bend Sable, three escallops Argent.

Ancestor to the Lucy's of Broxburn, Herts, Baronets, which title is now considered extinct. He inherited the estate by right of his first wife, daughter and coheiress of Sir Henry Cock, of that place, Knt. The arms were, Gules crusuly Or, three lucies hauriant Arg. "The Bishop was grandfather to William Lucy, of Castle-Cary, Somerset, Esq. and of George Lucy of Pembroke, Wales, Esq.

He left a son Richard, who was married to Rebecca, daughter and coheiress of Thomas Chapman of Wormley, Herts, Esq. relict of Sir Thomas Playters of Sotterby, Suffolk, Bart. who, surviving her second husband, married Sir Rowland Lytton, of Knebworth, Herts, Knt. and died May 23, 1685.

y Made by his father (who died in 1689), Chancellor of the Church at St. David's. 2 Made Canon and Treasurer of the Cathedral Church of St. David's, by his father, and died at Brecknock, Feb. 1690.

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BETTER arguments can always be because his envy and malice are such,

found in support of truth, than of falshood; and it is the fault of the reasoner, if the cause of right does not appear to the greatest advantage. Macdiarmid's Life of Cecil, I. 209. Where the people are well taught, the King has ever good obedience of his subjects. Ibid, 210.

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Stephen Langton, who was Abp. of Canterbury in the 13th century, was a learned and polite author for that age to him we are indebted for the division of the Bible into Chapters.— Mosheim.

The first Concordance of the Bible was compiled in the 13th century by Hugo de St. Caro, who also composed a very learned Collection of various readings of Hebrew, Greek, and Latin MSS. of the Bible; this work, which he entitled Correctorium Bitlia, is preserved in MS. in the Sorbonne Library. Mosheim.

The term Transubstantiation was first used by Pope Innocent III. at the Lateran Council, held A. D. 1215, for which John Pungers Asinus afterwards substituted Consubstantiation. -Mosheim.

The self-whippers, or flagellants, began in Italy, A. D. 1260, and propagated their discipline through almost all the countries of Europe. But the Emperors and Pontiffs thought proper to put an end to this religious frenzy, by declaring all devout whipping contrary to the Divine Law, and prejudicial to the soul's eternal inte

rest. Mosheim.

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that the moment he perceives himself dying, he takes care to destroy this virtue.—Pliny, VI. 37.

But it often happens that the dragon, in spite of the pole-axe and cunning of the Indian, seizes him and carries him off to his den, by which he makes the whole mountain tremble. They are said to inhabit mountains near the Red Sea.-Appollonius, 133.

The learned Asiatics in their mysterious rites allotted to the seven terrestrial metals the same names by which they denominated the seven planets, and the same hieroglyphic characters at this day equally distinguish both. The ring of gold, a proper emblem of the Sun, was worn on Sunday; a ring of silver, emblem of the Moon, on Monday,-of iron on Tuesday,-of quicksilver on Wednesday,-of tin on Thursday,-of brass on Friday,—and of lead on Saturday.-Berwick, Apoll.

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The Persian Gulf abounds with the pearl fish; and fisheries are established on the coasts of the several islands in it. The fish in which pearls are usually produced, is the East Indian oyster, as it is commonly though not, very properly called.—Ibid. 186.

Since Egypt appears to have been the grand source of knowledge for the Western, and India for the more Eastern parts of the globe, it may be asked whether the Egyptians communicated their mythology or philosophy to the Hindus, or conversely. Sir W. Jones has stated this, without his being able to draw any satisfactory conclusion.Berwick, Apoll. 139.

Lycophron says, that Achilles was nine cubits high; and Quintus Calaber adds, that his stature was equal to that of a giant.—Ibid. 203.

That water was the primitive element, and first work of the creative power, is the uniform opinion of the Indian philosophers (Sir W. Jones); and this corresponds with the Mosaic history.-See Gen. i. 2.

Cicada-insects, found in various parts of the new and old Continent, where they subsist almost wholly on the leaves of trees, and other vegetable substances. The Athenians wore golden Cicada in their hair, to denote their national antiquity, that, like

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Nuga Curiosa.-Agricultural Distress.

these creatures, they were the first-born of the earth. Anacreon has an Ode addressed to the Cicada, which, in Moore's beautiful Translation, begins thus:

"O thou of all creations blest,
Sweet Insect," &c.

-Berwick, 379.

Cabal is derived from the noise made by the trampling of horses' hoofs, xabaλans-horse.

Scillus, a town near Olympia, is rendered illustrious by having been made the retreat of Xenophon, where he is said to have written most of his works.-Mitford.

Pheasants, or birds of Phasis, were confined, it is said, to Colchis before the Expedition of the Argonauts, who finding these beautiful birds scattered on the banks of that river, carried them home to Greece; and thence they have been brought into Europe.

The disease of cancer derives this name from the Greeks, who entertained a dread of it, from a supposed resemblance to the tenacious forceps of the crab-fish ;-while the Romans called it lupus, or the wolf, on account of its malignity.-Aldis.

The Romans possessed diamonds, but were ignorant of the means of rendering them brilliant.

Mr. URBAN,

A. H.

Feb. 7. WAVING for the last 25 years been practically employed in a farm, and experienced the advantages and disadvantages resulting from the increased and diminished value of its products, I think myself competent to offer some reflections upon the present Agricultural Distress and this, in my view, appears to be derived from the invariable consequence of certain principles in the sale of commodities, which experience will prove to be as well founded as any axiom in mathematics.

Whenever the demand for a commodity is greater than the supply, there will be a scarcity in the market, and a consequent rise in price. If the supply be over abundant, the price will sink accordingly: dearness and cheapness being in fact terms expressing scarcity and plenty.

From the increasing demand which took place during the war for provisons for the Army and Navy, and also from the increased consumption by manufacturers and others employed

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in the various Government contracts, together with the great influx of artificial money in Country Bank notes

all this occasioned at once a greater demand for the produce of the soil, with increased facilities of purchase: and the grand error of the Agriculturist has been that he assumed the rise of price as permanent, and lived accordingly; when experience has shown it to be temporary only.

From the above causes arose also the natural tendency to carry into practice those improvements in Agriculture, which, with the bringing into cultivation thousands of acres of commons and waste land, have made the soil of the kingdom yield nearly double the amount of what it did 30 years

ago.

At that time it was generally admitted that the produce of the country did not afford sufficient food for its inhabitants, and from thence arose those societies from which so many improvements have been derived.

In regard to protecting prices, so long as the manufacturer is secure from all foreign interference, it is but fair that there should be an adequate protection to the Agriculturist, and so long as he can furnish the markets with wheat under 80s. per quarter, so long he will enjoy the monopoly.

But the present Agricultural Distress is not confined to this country alone, as appears by the Answer of the French Sovereign to the Address of the Deputies of the Departments, where he says, "I know the difficulties which attend the sale of corn, but no law can prevent the inconvenience which arises from a superabundant harvest; the whole of Europe expcriences it at this moment."

Such being the case, the Landholder must, however unwillingly, lower his rents, and not screen himself through the farmer. He has had the benefit, and mankind the calamity, of a twenty years' war, and he must content himself, like the Government, with the reduced scale of a peace establishment, and not endeavour to involve in long and mysterious details a very plain case, or too selfishly shift his present difficulties, which he will find only temporary, upon those who have, during the whole of the war, so largely contributed to the increased value of his property,-who have so patiently submitted to privations, and a novel

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Families of Carmino, Courtenay, and Grenville.

and galling Taxation, happily now done away, and who have fought and bled to protect that land from which he derives all his consequence. AGRICOLA.

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Yours, &c.

Mr. URBAN, Inner Temple, Feb. 8. BEG the favour of the insertion of the following genealogical remarks in your useful Publication, with the hope that some of your Readers are able to remove the doubts which arise on the subject.

In the pedigrees of the antient Cornish family of Carmino, Sir Oliver Carmino, knt. who is also called Chamberlain to King Edward III. or to Richard II. is said, in some, to have married Elizabeth, sister of John Holland, Duke of Exeter; and, in others, Elizabeth, sister of Thomas Holland, Earl of Kent, and Duke of Surrey and in the Heralds' Visitations of Cornwall, the following note is affixed to this match:

"He and his wife are buried in the Fryers at Bodmin: she with a coronet, and he with his legs across."

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As no such alliance is noticed in any pedigree of the family of Holland, Earls of Kent, or Dukes of Exeter, I am desirous of inquiring of your respondents if any of them are aware if there be any authentic pedigree (excepting those of Carmino) in which such a daughter is mentioned as narried to Carmino; or if they are acquainted with any other record of Sir Oliver Carmino's having been Chamberlain to Edward III. or to Richard II. either when those monarchs were Princes of Wales, or after they ascended the throne.

In the pedigrees of Courtenay, Earls of Devon, and of Grenville, Earls of Bath, the following contradictions occur. Sir Hugh Courtenay of Haccombe in Devon (brother to Edward, and grandfather of Edward, Earls of Devon), is said, in the Heralds' Visitations, to have married "Maud, fil. Dini Beaumont," as his first wife,

But in Cleveland's History of the
Courtenay Family, she is called "the
daughter of Sir John Beaumont of
Shirwell, co. Devon, and his third
wife." I have never seen any pedi-
gree
of Beaumont, in which this al-
liance is given, excepting in one of
the Lords Beaumont, in Harl. MSS.
1233, page 101, in which Henry'

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Lord Beaumont is said, by Margaret,
daughter of John Vere, Earl of Ox-
ford, to have had a daughter Maud,
married to Sir Hugh Courtney. By
the daughter of Beaumont, Cleveland,
Collins, and Edmonstone, make Sir
Hugh Courtney to have had a daugh-
ter Margaret, married to Sir Theobald
Grenville, the ancestor of the late Earls
of Bath. No such daughter is men-
tioned in the pedigrees of Courtney in
the Visitations; but in that of Gren-
ville, Sir Theobald is said to have mar-
ried "Margaret fil. Hugh Courtenay."
Sir William Pole, in his Collections for
a History of Devon, says, she was the
daughter of Hugh Courtenay, Earl of
Devon, by Elizabeth Bohun, and wi-
dow of John Lord Cobham, and which
agrees better in point of time. But
this is rendered extremely improbable
by this Margaret, who died on the 20
of August 1385, having been buried
at Cobham in Kent; and by the in-
scription on her tomb merely reciting
that she was the wife of John Lord
Cobham, without noticing a second
husband. (Vide Weever's Funeral
Monuments, ed. 1631, fol. 328.) A
solitary pedigree in one of the Harleian
Manuscripts makes her to have mar-
ried Sir Theobald Grenville first, and
to have had Lord Cobham for a second
husband. I am, however, inclined to
deem Cleveland to be correct; but should
any of your Correspondents be aware
of any proofs which would corroborate
or contradict either of the above state-
ments, they would much oblige those
who are interested in the genealogy of
Cornish families, by communicating
them through your pages.

H.

P. S. Since writing the above, I have discovered that John Anstis,

Garter King of Arms, has written the genealogy of the families of Courtenay and Grenville. Perhaps some of your Correspondents can inform me where it may be found.

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Foreign Education dangerous and contrary to Law.

dence in Paris and other parts of France; and as a mother who values the immortal interests of her children above all other things, I declare that worlds should not tempt me to intrust the education of my daughters to a French governess. The best that can be hoped in such a case is, that they will forbear to mention the subject of Religion to their pupils! yet the mothers of these helpless victims, no doubt, call themselves Christians, and profess to believe their Bible, in which they are positively commanded to "bring up their children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord!" They are also told, that "the fashion of this world passeth away," and yet they will sacrifice their best interests to the imaginary advantage of a correct pronunciation of a foreign language.

I think I have judged without prejudice, and I am free to declare, from every thing that I have seen and heard in France, that if my daughters can acquire only the true Parisian accent by a residence in Paris, I hope they will be for ever ignorant of it. Let them be at once known for English women by speaking the French language with an English accent, which, after all, is the only evil to be apprehended, and they shall learn, from their mother's observation, that they have no need to blush for their country.

I must confess there are few things that would more sensibly offend me, than being mistaken for a Frenchwoman. I returned to my native land with joy and gratitude, but I have never ceased to think of the blindness and infatuation of my countrywomen without serious concern. I greatly fear that our peace with France will entail more lasting misery on this country than a continuance of war could have done. I pass over all the evil that may arise to the present race from the importation of French manners, and the adoption of French habits. Enough might be said on the folly of our children of a larger growth, but I trust we are safe; ten righteous saved a city once, and we have many of trite English hearts; "that salt preserves our country;" but it is when these children who are now growing up in alienation from their native land, shall become wives and mothers, and mistresses of families, that the dreaded mischief will ensue. What can they

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have to entail or disseminate, but the infidel principles which they have imbibed? Or granting (which I am by no means disposed to do) that it is possible for them to escape the contagion which everywhere surrounds them, what can be expected from them but total ignorance of the great end and purpose of their being, or what is worse, total indifference to it? It may seem a bold assertion, but I defy any one to reside in France and return entirely uncontaminated by the unholy atmosphere which surrounds him. From a multiplicity of proofs, I select one, the first that occurs to me. In the hotel at which I for a time resided in Paris, there was an English family, who I thought at first as respectable from their conduct as they were from their rank in life. In a short time they grew into all the irregularities of French manners; and the last Sunday that I spent in Paris, both the mother and daughters attended a ball given by the National Guard to the Royal Family at one of the French Theatres. Many, very many instances of our countrymen and women throwing off all the wholesome restraints of their own country occur to me, but I will only add, that I shall be most happy to know that I have induced any one to consider this subject in its true light.

Should the present race of thoughtless and fashionable Mothers, who, in their imprudent zeal for unsubstantial accomplishments sacrifice the best interests of their children, be unmoved by the reniarks in the foregoing Letter, the subjoined short extracts from the English Law on this subject may make an impression on the more cool and calculating spirit of the Fathers.

"The last duty of parents to their children is that of giving them an education suitable to their station in life; a duty pointed out by reason, and of far the greatest importance of any. The rich indeed are left at their own option, whether they will breed up their children to be ornaments or disgraces to their family. Yet in one case, that of Religion, they are under peculiar I. cap. 4; and 3 Jac. I.), that if any person restrictions; for it is provided (Stat. 1 Jac. sends any child beyond the seas, either to

enter it into or reside in any Popish college, prevent its good education in England, or to or to be instructed, persuaded, or strengthened, in the Popish religion; in such case, besides the disabilities incurred by the child, the parent or person so sending shall

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