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SALE OF THE HOLME PIERREPONT RAMS.

The wo middle months of the great International year will always be memorable in farming annals, as having witnessed the first English congress of animals of all nations, and the dispersion of our finest flocks of Leicesters and Southdowns. We have not, however, the pleasure of recording that Mr. Sanday is only selling his celebrated flock with a view to establishing another herd of shorthorns. No new arrivals supply the places of the Fame and Garland tribes which Mr. Strafford dispersed in October; and the only remnant of that sale, an Old Foggathorpe heifer, died in calving during the Battersea week. The Leicester flock takes its departure in three divisions. Seventy-two rams were sold on Wednesday; thirty more, which were not quite forward enough to bring into a sale ring, and about 240 ewes, follow in the second week of September; and about 160 shearlings, ewes, and rams, a great portion of which are by the Battersea gold-medal sheep, complete the clearing out next summer: and then Mr. Sanday and " George" will be, in truth, a general and a colonel without the army with which they have fought and won such rich spoils in many a battle-royal.

Notts seems to have been pretty well favoured in its hay time; and although we encountered a heavy pourdown on our road, things promised well for the sale, both as regards weather and attendance, when we met the Yorkshire division at Grantham. It had been rumoured that Sir Tatton Sykes intended once more to revisit the spot where he purchased his first lot of ewes from Mr. Sanday's father, nearly seventy years ago, and to which for the first fifty years of the century he had been so constant each summer; but the venerable baronet did not appear in person, and it is not his custom to buy by proxy. Spain, however, furnished what Sledmere denied in the Marquis of Peralles and Don Constantius Ardanus, "Director of Agriculture"; but we need hardly say that the rash and mysterious "nobleman," who makes expensive purchases, and never seems, either from lack of money or paternal acres, to take them home, did not deem it wise to confer his invisible presence on the assembly. Sixteen counties furnished their crack flockmasters for "a last word" with Mr. Strafford. Yorkshire sent ten, Nottinghamshire seven, Warwickshire four, Leicestershire, Staffordshire, and Devonshire three, and Northamptonshire and Cornwall two, and the rest one each. Mr. Thunder did not cross the Channel this July, but county Cork was embodied to some purpose in Messrs. Briscoe and Meade.

The ring was pitched on the same spot as that selected for the shorthorns; and "George," as master of the ceremonies, had brought down the two Battersea pens of theaves and some of his choicest flock matrons into the meadow, to give us a foretaste of September. One of them lay apart in splints, and, as capricious Fortune would have it, she proved to be the dam of the gold medal two-shear. Barring the absence of the shorthorn men, and about half the company of that day, the tent preliminaries differed in no way from those in October; and Mr. Torr, the president, was in as good form as the Nottingham Eleven, when they routed Cambridgeshire a week before, at Trent Bridge. In proposing Mr. Sanday's health, he well said that in his hands "the Leicesters of Burgess had lost none of their excel

lence or purity"; and in returning thanks for himself,
he advised those who "thought it was so easy to breed
rams to try and do it, and, when they had done it, to
get other people to judge them."
It was nearly two o'clock before Mr. Strafford
mounted his waggon and called for the first shearling,
with the preliminary announcement that ten guineas in
every case must be the opening bid. The third-prize
shearling at Battersea did not long lack a bidder, as
"the waggoners" were uncommonly busy; and Mr.
Borton got him at 40 gs. In point of gaiety and form
he was not equal to the first-prize one; but in quality
of mutton and amount of fleece he decidedly beat him,
and in the latter respect his 11 lbs. placed him at the
head of the shearlings. Mr. Hall, jun., took the lead,
and kept it, for No. 2 (25 gs.); and then "George"
ushered in the prize shearling. Mr. Briscoe led off for
him, and the bid rested with him at 30. Mr. Lees then
put on another guinea; and scarcely had the last sand
run out, when Mr. Briscoe, who (by a remarkable pro-
cess of reasoning) ascribed his absence of mind to the
tioneer, went up with a rush to 35. The disappoint-
presence of a grey body between himself and the auc-
mens did not seem to prey upon him much; and when
"Mr. C. Wright, 24 gs.," and "Mr. G. Turner, jun.,
20 gs.," had been entered against a couple, there was
some sharp firing over Lot 6; but Mr. Hall's mind was
made up, and "the G A dam by M Y" shearling of nice
old character became his for 28 gs. The next lot
brought out Mr. Beaseley, jun., who had the fullest
scope, from his front position, for bidding by sight
as well as sound; and he and Northamptonshire
would not be shaken off. Mr. George Mann, brother-
in-law to Mr. Sanday, took the next lot, "gr. g. d. by
Burgess's Fatbeck," for 20 gs., to Scawsby; and then
Mr. Singleton, after an escape "by a sand" of having
his 26-guinea bid affirmed, got No. 9 at 2 gs. beyond it.
There was nothing to mark Mr. G. Wood's 22-guinea
closer for No. 10; but with No. 11 Spain-which stood
in a cluster, leaning against the hurdles showed
her hand successfully at 18 gs. No. 12 was a great,
good sheep, related through its grandam to "the 111-
guinea sheep ;" and "W. Hurlstone, 42 gs.," was the
return of the struggle over it. After Lot 15, the
average stood at about 26 gs. On went the book-
entries-Scott 21 gs., Briscoe 16 gs. ("thick and
cheap," as his friends assured him), Dester 15 gs.-
rather slowly, till a commended shearling, with remark-
ably good wool, was marched round the ring, and put
in at 20 gs. Mr. Luke Borman was always handy for
it; and at 45 gs. he had shaken off all his opponents,
and gave in Mr. Torr's name as purchaser. Mr. Meade,
of county Cork, then went in at 26 gs. The Spaniards
followed twice in succession at 16 gs. and 13 gs.; and
two more shearlings, each at 15 gs., completed their
business for the day. Biddings, which had rather
drooped, began in earnest at the sight of the last shear-
ling (No. 30); but Mr. Hawkes, of Ratcliffe, stuck to
his text, and the son of LX, dam by C S, will not go
far from "the classic land" (we again quote the Presi-
dent)" of his birth, nurture, and disposal." So much
for the shearlings; and the quickest calculators said,
"Not quite 24 gs. for 30!"

With the two-shears matters mended, and Mr. Turner, jun., soon showed fight for No. 31, a very fat one at 20 gs. "He was let for 61 gs.," said Mr. Torr; "65 gs.," interposed George," Mr. Hall had him,'

ded to and at one time it seemed as if Mr. Hall it have him again. We marked that gentleman's 55guinea nod, and we believe he took the odd biddings up to 59 gs., when 60 guineas from Mr. Wippell from Devonshire was not advanced upon. The third prize shearling of Leeds and the highly commended of Batterses was rather deficient in his rumps, but thought by many to be almost the best on the ground. Mr. Hall hired him last year, and would take no denial this. Mr. Torr, Mr. Turner, and Mr. Briscoe were all "in" by turns, but it was no use, and to Scorboro' he went at 68 gs. The sight of the gold-medaleist caused a regular"fight for the standard" at first, and the waggon was the scene of action. Mr. Turner, father or Mr. son, we did not note which, began him at 50 gs., Borton stopped at 100, Mr. Turner at 110, and Mr. Cresswell was the man in possession at 135; then there was a long pause, and anon came a mysterious "five" so indistinct and so late from beneath the waggon, that Mr. Strafford did not hear it at all, and Mr. Cresswell at first pencilled himself down against the lot in his catalogue. However, that gentleman made no demur, and Colonel Inge's bailiff, who must really learn to fight quicker, was returned as the winner for a very beautiful sheep, who has told his own tale by a rare crop of lambs at Holmpierrepont. Mr. Tremayne of Cornwall had then a 28-guinea taste of the Buckley sort, and then Mr. Stamper made his first venture with the second prize Leeds shearling and Irish gold-medaleist, a largesized sheep, with rather a light skin, and let to Mr. Thunder for 71gs. last year. His twin brother went for 27 gs. to Mr. Kendal, and George's interpellation that lot 37 and the gold-medal sheep "are from two sisters" did not help lot 37 beyond 14 gs., and with the exception of a 35-guinea sheep of good stamp, which was purchased by Mr. Hall, the rest of the two-shears went low. However, five out of the 22 saved the average, which was £30 14s. 9d.

The three shears began well with the thrice second sheep at the Royal; but even that and his 111-guinea letting did not get him beyond 30 gs., and he only goes to the next village. No. 54 was a commended one at Battersea; and a very good one he looked as he turned his beautiful breast towards the waggon. “Mr. Wedge had him two years," was George's reply to a shower of questions; and Mr. Turner has him now, with 41 gs. on his head. Mr. Torr took a great fancy to No. 55, and so did Mr. Cresswell, who got him at 70 gs., just half the price of the gold medallist he had lost; but his opponent had much easier work in securing his 50-guinea protegé of last year for 34 gs. His wondrous fore-quarters are still there, but service at home and Aylesby has sadly crippled him since he was the first-prize shearling among the "Canterbury Pilgrims." Mr. Key's style of bidding, on behalf of Mr. Dixon, of Brands burton, for the next and last three-shear lot, was of the most short, sharp, and decisive nature. His energy had not expended itself by winning it at 32 gs., as he set-to on the first four-shear: a winner of a first at the Yorkshire, and a first, a second, and third at the Royal, in quite a Victory or Westminster-Abbey style. There was a little history about this grand old hero, which, with lettings and prizes, had earned nearly £300. As a three-shear, Mr. Dixon just missed him; but as Aylesby had already two crops of lambs by him, opposition in that quarter now ceased, and Mr. Key closed his bargain at 56 gs. with such a snap, that there was quite a roar round the ring. None of the few lots after that made more than 20 gs.; and a very fair sale, damaged not a little by the breaking down in training of five of the best LX shearlings, demands no further comment than the conventional return.

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THE HOBBS' TESTIMONIAL.-A private meeting of the friends of Mr. W. Fisher Hobbs has been held at the offices of Mr. Brandreth Gibbs, in Half Moon-street, The honourable Colonel Hood presided, and arrange. ments were made for proceeding with the subscription for a testimonial to Mr. Hobbs, in acknowledgment of his distinguished services in the cause of agricultural progress." Mr. Hall Dare, of the Royal Agricultural Society; Mr. Brandreth Gibbs, of the Smithfield Club; and Mr. Henry Corbet, of the Farmers' Club, have consented to act as Honorary Secre taries; and a committee is in the course of formation.

THE ADULTERATION OF ARTIFICIAL MANURES AND FEEDING STUFFS.

At the Wenlock Farmers' Club this subject was introduced buying in small quantities, just when they wanted the by Mr. MEIRE, as follows: He said that when he intimated manure. The consequence was that the manufacturers his desire that the question before the club should be were compelled to employ a large number of intelligent men investigated, and when he was pressed into the service as agents, to push their trade. That was a mistake, for all himself, he was under the conviction that he could not do these men must, of course, be paid by the men who buy the justice to the question, so far as a chemical investigation article. He would, therefore, suggest (the Wenlock Far was concerned; but he had been practically engaged in agriculture, and he had used a great deal of the manure and mers' Club being a practical body of men) that it should be suggested from the club to the principal producers of manure food, and it was because of his practical knowledge that he in the midland counties, and ask them to meet them at was willing to enter upon the question. He had no doubt there Wenlock, or some central place, and try to agree to some were gentlemen present who were better acquainted with arrangement which might be mutually beneficial to all par agricultural chemistry than he himself was, and therefore ties. "He was quite sure if some hundreds of men were to he would look at the question more from a commercial point meet in some great agricultural hall at certain seasons, and of view. When the subject of artificial manures and feeding have the dealers in manure to meet them, both parties stuffs was first introduced, men of capital, ability, and high would derive great benefit in the large saving of cost to the respectability commenced large works for the production of purchaser and expense to the seller. Mr. Meire next rethese things-for dissolving bones for fertilizing the land. ferred to artificial foods, which he believed were even more In this they were successful; and the success of these adulterated than manures. He would defy anyone to test extensive and highly respectable firms induced men of little the extent to which this adulteration was carried. The sale knowledge, little capital, and less honesty, to try and make of these was also through agents; and if the consumer was money by it, and the consequence was that agriculture had not careful as to the parties from whom he purchased he suffered. Every farmer in the room, he might say, had was almost sure to become a victim. Farmers did not go suffered from it. Now, what he was anxious to do was to to the right market at the right time, and thereby laid them. suggest a means to the trade consistent with the production selves open to the smart dealings of the agents. He believed of a manure which would be lower in price than the farmers genuine oilcake was the best feed the farmers could have; are now paying, and be equally profitable to the producers. but they seldom got the right article, and they bought in There was a system going on in the selling of these manures small quantities just when they wanted it, instead of getting which every man must condemn, and that was, the employ large quantities at times when they could get it best. Now, ment of agents in those transactions between the farmer and in this, as in the case of manure, they should test it for producer. In every market town in England, on a market themselves, and their cattle would be the best laboratory. day, nearly every third man was connected, in some way, He had himself, for the last twelve months, used oats with with the manure or food trade, and the result was that these oilcake for his sheep, and he never had lambs so healthy men, with their smartness and ability, pushed a trade before. He must, however, observe that the grain should amongst farmers who were ignorant of the world, and of be old, or it would be hurtful rather than otherwise. He unsophisticated habits, and were frequently taken in. It had thought farmers ought to be free from excise in malting been announced, by a gentleman to whom the agricultural their own barley, as they could then produce excellent cattle world was much indebted for the chemical analysis of these food at a cheap rate, and so become competitors with the manures, that he would not publish any more tests as to the makers of cattle food. He had used in feeding upwards of comparative value of artificial manure, because he found a thousand bushels of oats, and he never gave oilcake withthem so unsatisfactory. When, therefore, scientific men out oats. He would not give his stock new barley, for it came to that conclusion, farmers must find out some other would destroy them; and of this he had had practical extest to test the quality of those manures. If he was asked, perience. He could not agree with the four-course system, as a practical farmer, what their test should be, he would and thought that the five-course system of crops was much say that he would take a certain quantity of pure Peruvian better for the land and the farmer. He had adopted the guano and the same money value of artificial manure, and, latter because he had a lease, and he found it to be the best. with his field as his laboratory, he would test the quality by He thought that the landlords ought not to object to the the crop produced. He had no doubt that, by close ob- farmers growing and selling anything they liked on their servation, it could be seen whether the artificial manures farms if they had good security for their rents. Farmers made by the different companies in England were genuine; ought to be allowed to sell any produce off the land, except and this could be at once told if they would bear the test. their wives and children. Mr. Meire then referred to a If the superphosphates which are sold in the market would political matter which very materially affected the interests come up to this test, in a commercial point of view, it would of the farmers; but he said he should do so very briefly, be clear that the firm which produced it were selling the because politics were strictly and properly excluded from bond-fide thing to their customers. With regard to the sys- the club. It was the question of the malt tax, a revision or tem of employing agents, he did not object to the agents remission of which had long been promised. Now that themselves, who, in most cases, were highly respectable men, political parties were so nearly divided in the House of and who pushed their business with great zeal and energy; Commons that they were made more than usually amiable, but he objected to the system, and there was not a doubt he thought it a good time for the farmers to impress upon that it was becoming irksome to the practical farmers of their members the necessity of attention to the subject; and, England to have to attend to the calls of those gentlemen. as this club might become a medium through which these He thought he might suggest-which he would do with great opinions might be communicated to others, he thought it respect that the business between the manufacturer and the advisable thus briefly to refer to the subject. farmer could be carried on in a much more satisfactory manner to both parties, if it were transacted on the principle of the old wool sales. The committee of management connected with those sales took care to fix a day to suit both buyer and seller; and it was a fact that the sales were wonderfully well attended, and a large amount of business was always done, and a vast amount of good was done by that intelligent mode of doing business. The fact was, the farmers had not of late done justice to their intelligence, for they had not taken care to give their orders to the firms with which they dealt, in proper time and in a business-like manner, but kept

Mr. EVAN DAVIES, of Patten, said he had long and earnestly urged upon the club that it would be much better for the farmers not to purchase small quantities of manure as individuals; but they should go to some respectable manufacturer and give an order for 100 tons at a time, by which he had no doubt they would get it cheaper, for the manufacturer would not be obliged to pay a commission upon the sale of it, and it would secure a first-rate article, for their custom would be such that no firm would think of deceiving them at the risk of losing. He had always confined himself to the use of Peruvian guano until it became

too dear; but since he had purchased bones, and dissolved them himself, and, if it were not for the inconvenience of this plan, it would be found by far the cheaper. He had found that in the greater portion of the manures sold there was a very large quantity of ashes, and other things which were of no use to the land. It was, of course, necessary to mix some ashes to dry the manure sufficiently to make it work; but in most of the stuff offered for sale there was a large proportion of matter that was useless, There was no doubt that first-rate superphosphate manure could be made for five pounds per ton. If they were to unite together and give their orders to one house in which they had confidence, or, as different people no doubt had their friends and par. tialities, let them say to three houses, they would get much better served. That there was adulteration could not be doubted he had seen some delivered to some of his neighbours that they could not separate, and which was not worth the trouble of wheeling off the road, for it stuck in lumps like glue. As to artificial foods, he did not wish to say much: it was a subject which he had mentioned several times to their club. He had used for a long time peas, barley, wheat, and oilcake, together for feeding, which a friend of his said was such excellent food that, if it were patented, he would make his fortune by it; but he did not wish to make his fortune off the farmers. He was willing to work for them with his tongue and with his pen to support the interests of the farmers-a class who work industriously for their living, and deserved to do well. Mr. Davies produced a sample of cloverseed, which appeared to be as nice a sample as any man need look at; but, on being subjected to examination under a powerful magnifying glass, a great part of it was easily discovered to be small flint stones, which, he said, would help to weigh, but certainly would not grow. He advised every farmer to get one of the glasses which he had for examining seeds, as they would find it very useful. He might, he thought, say a word about oilcake, and mention that a friend of his had an opportunity of visiting a very large manufactory of oilcake, and he could not help observing that the bran was shovelled into the mill as fast as the seed, and sometimes faster. Now, he thought it hard to pay ten or twelve pounds per ton for bran.

Mr. SMITH, of Sutton Maddock, being called upon, said the subject under consideration was one of great importance to farmers. With regard to the present system of farming, they were obliged to use some artificial aids, in order to raise the quantity of stock they required to meet the increased consumption of a continually increasing population, and it behoved them to consider well what were the best for their purpose, and how they were manufactured. He be lieved oilcake to be the best they could have; but what had recently been stated in a circular should open their eyes, and put them upon their guard as to the purchase of it. It was stated that there were 15,000 tons more oilcake annually used in this country than there was of linseed imported to make it of, and very little indeed was grown in this country, and to the extent of the difference the farmers were robbed. Dr. Voelcker had given up analyzing, and Dr. Letheby, he thought, was not much to be depended on, after the evidence he had given in one or two recent cases. He thought, as a manure, there was nothing like a soluble phosphate. Perhaps some of the other manures, sold at small prices, might do something for the land at a period to be looked for in the fature; but they wanted something for themselves as well as for their children. He was sure that manures were most fearfully adulterated. He gave some instances of several lots he had bought, which had been sold to him as something superior, but he had derived no benefit from them: they contained neither ammonia nor soluble phosphate. They must remember that they could turn their capital but once a year, and then it became a question whether manures or food were of the most importance. The reduction which was continually taking place in the price of condiments was very suspicious. He then spoke of the fourcourse system as perhaps well enough for twenty years ago, but not at all suited to the present mode of farming and if farmers were continued to be tied down to it, it would become one of the greatest curses of the land. Speaking of the malt tax, he said farmers had for a long time been grossly neglected by the legislature. If the malt tax were repealed, it would be removing from the farmer a tax under which he suffered more heavily than any other trade.

Mr. GRIFFIN, of Wolverhampton, said, with reference to Mr. Meire's remarks on the cost of agencies, the manufac turers would be very glad to get rid of it, and would be pleased to give a proportionate benefit to the farmers. As to adulteration, he could assure them that their works were always open to inspection, and anybody was welcome to go and see for themselves. Cattle foods they had been able to reduce, and he thought they should be able to do so still more. The success which had attended the sale of these articles had stimulated others to go into the trade; and there was one kind sold at £18 10s., which he was quite sure should not cost more than 46s., and leave the manufacturer a fair profit. Of course he should not mention names. He sincerely hoped the subject would be ventilated by practical men, and by clubs such as that now assembled; and if it were taken up generally he should be very glad.

Mr. MEIRE made a few observations regarding what Mr. Smith had said, with whom he entirely agreed, as to the necessity of having as early a return as possible for the money expended on the land.

Mr. DAVIES moved a vote of thanks to Mr. Meire for his for discussion in so able and lucid a manner. trouble in attending the club, and introducing the subject

The motion, on being seconded, was carried with acclamation.

The CHAIRMAN then moved a resolution to the following effect: "That it is the opinion of this meeting that a much greater degree of attention should be paid to the subjects of artificial manures and feeding stuffs than has been given hitherto by the farmers in general."

The motion was unanimously agreed to, and the proceedings terminated with a vote of thanks to the Chairman.

DEATH OF TOM SEBRIGHT.-He then insisted, as it was Sunday, on having two glasses of wine as usual to drink his time-honoured toasts, "A good health to you all," and "The master of the hounds." "That's not enough," he said, "to drink Mr. Fitzwilliam's health in, Winifred," when she only poured out half a glass, but he could do little more than taste it when it was given him. The toast he had drunk Sunday after Sunday, for those forty seasons, made him wander back to the hounds; "Don't you see them ?" he said to his daughter," they're all round my bed; there's old Bluecap, ther," she replied, "you're mistaken." and Shiner, and Bonny Lass wagging her steru." "No, fa"Ah! they're gone now; strange, isn't it, I should see them so plain? Oh, dear! my eyes deceive me; they're only flies." The window was open, and the sound of the church bell floated into the room. In his days of health it had never struck on his ear in vain, and he spoke to his little grandchild and told her not to be late. "Are you dressed for church, Harry?" he said to his son, who sat and watched him at the bedside, but he was hardly couscious of the answer, and almost before the bell was down, his own last summons had been given and obeyed. They laid him at Thorpe, by the side of his Dorothy and his son. Her loss two years before, had almost bowed him down. "She helped me through many a hard trouble; nothing but her tender care made me the man I have been, but God's will be done." It was thus he told the grief, which in his quiet nature sank so deep; and those who knew him best, knew too how truly he had spoken through the lines, which he selected for her head-stone:

"Restrained from passionate excess,

Thou bidat me mourn in calm distress,
For those who rest in Thee."

And there the old man sleeps; and as we passed away from the spot, and lingered for a moment by the grave of Will Dean" aged 79," and read how "all fall alike, the fearfull and the brave," we might well think how long and brilliant had been their career, and what stirring pages might have been added to the annals of the Chase, if" The Master of the Donnington," Will Goodall, and Sir Harry had not died in their prime.-Scott and Sebright, by "The Druid."

HAYMAKING.

EAST LOTHIAN AGRICULTURAL CLUB.

At the last monthly meeting, Mr. S. SHIRRIFF said he had suggested the subject because he considered it of great practical importance, and because he felt that he was himself comparatively ignorant of it, but he never expected to be called upon to introduce it. He did not think that in East Lothian they were sufficiently up in the best mode of making hay (Hear). Last year, he had a young Englishman staying with him, and on seeing some of his hay, which had been cut about eight days before, still in the field, he asked him in astonishment why he had not stacked it, and said that ought to have been done six weeks ago (laughter.) He (Mr. Shirriff) believed that they were generally too long in cutting their hay, and that they allowed it to lie too long in the swathe, or on the field after it was cut (Hear). He had lately been reading Mr. Wilson's (of Eddington Mains) excellent work on "British Agriculture," and he thought his chapter on haymaking contained very valuable information and suggestions on the subject. He was sorry that he had not brought the book with him, or he would have read some extracts from that chapter which might have been useful at the outset of the discussion.

Mr. TODD, Castlemains, said that, in consequence of the increasing use of improved mowing machinery, they were enabled to cut down the hay much earlier than formerly, as it got sooner ready for the mower than the scythe. The difference was so great that it was almost like a new branch which they had to learn, and he thought the discussion had better be put off till next season, and that in the meantime they should make experiments to ascertain the difference between the plans to be followed when the hay was cut by the scythe and laid in swathes, and when it was cut with the mowing machine and strewed over the field.

Mr. DURIE, Standingstane, said he thought, as the haymaking season was coming on, this was the very time for them to learn, and to seek all the information they could get on the subject (Hear). He had not intended to make any remarks on the subject, as he expected that something more specific would have been brought forward by the gentleman at the head of the table. He thought the suggestions contained in Mr. Wilson's book were very good; but, without quoting Mr. Wilson, or any one else, he would merely say a few words as to what was his own practice. He had not been a great haymaker himself, and he had always been in the habit of considering that the farmers of Scotland were not particularly good haymakers. He thought they were too late in several things, and especially in the time of cutting it. In East-Lothian, their hay consisted principally of ryegrass and clover; and if they allowed it to ripen too much, they not only decreased its weight (for the seed shed in the handling), but they rendered the strap or straw coarse and fibrous, and materially deteriorated its nutritive qualities. His idea was that ryegrass hay should be cut whenever the tops began to fill; and when it was cut, the sooner it was made into hay the better (Hear.) He had never been in the habit of allowing his hay to lie on the field above from twelve to twenty-four hours after being cut. After putting it into windrows, he put it into threaves with the hand, and if they were right put up they would stand a good deal of rain. After standing a short time, they should be put into larger ricks; and even if Mr. Shirriff's fast friend from England, who discovered that his hay had been six weeks too long in the rick after being only eight days cut, came across them, he would discover that, with good tops and bottom, they could stand outside much longer without injury (Hear). He always put straw at the bottom and top; but the gra general principle to be observed in making hay was to make it as quickly as possible.

Mr. S. SHIRRIFF said what he meant to say was that they were int he habit of letting it stand in the field far too long. If it was put into coils as Mr. Durie recommended, it was very good, but still it should be put into the ricks as fast as possible.

Mr. DURIE said they could not follow the English plan in all things. In this country, as he had said, most of their hay was ryegrass and clover; but in England nine-tenths of the hay made was natural or meadow hay. The great object in England was to get the hay quickly made, by which means both the fine colour and the fresh sweet smell of the hay were preserved, and the sheep and cattle ate it much more readily. In the process of making natural hay, the chief thing was the "tedding" or shaking up, but this was not so essential in ryegrass hay.

Mr. DOUGLAS, Athelstaneford Mains, said the subject of haymaking was very important, though not so much so in East-Lothian as in counties where they had more old grass, and grew fewer roots. In that county they grew a good deal of hay from seeds, and this year the crop was very abundant. The weather, however, was not very auspicious for haymaking, and if they were to succeed they would require to give their whole attention to the making of it (Hear). Every person who had experience of the matter would agree that hay to be well made must be made quickly. But after being cut it was often allowed to lie in the swathe for two or three days under the influence of a strong sun. The consequence was that one side of the swathe at least was rendered dry, short, and brittle, and the greater part of the seed, which contained a great deal of the nutriment in the hay, was shed. He thought they managed the thing better in England, for as soon as the hay was cut, or before it was half dry, they brought the tedding machine to it, which separated every blade of the grass, and was the means of manufacturing it into hay in a very short space of time. Other workers followed the tedding machine, and made it into small coils, and from these it was carried in armfuls and made into little cocks on the field. The next day or so it was carried off the field and built into a rick. Of course this was a different species of hay from what they grew in East-Lothian from seed, and they could not follow precisely the same plan with clover hay. But he thought they allowed it to lie far too long in the field, and by that means they lost about threefourths of the seed containing a large proportion of the nutritive principle. In Ireland, the slovenliness was even worse, and he had seen the cut hay there lying in the field when the next crop was about two feet up. That was a great mistake and a great waste. The ground ought always, he thought, to be clear in five or six days after the hay was cut, and then they would get the whole surface of the field for the next crop. On the whole, he thought the farmers in East-Lothian should take a lesson from the English hay. makers; and he believed if they paid attention to shaking it

quickly out and getting it soon off the field, they would make as good hay as was made in England. The English allowed their hay to get a certain amount of heat in the rick, by which means it was considerably improved. He did not profess to be a great haymaker, but he had seen a good deal of haymaking in England, and he had been quite cognisant of the fact that the sweetness of the English hay was something quite different from what we had in Scotland. It was so sweet and fine in its flavour that he thought any old woman could make excellent tea with it (laughter). The cattle were exceedingly fond of it; they literally rolled it as a sweet morsel under their tongues, whereas here the horses sometimes preferred clean straw to their hay. He thought that, in weather of this kind especially, a tedding-machine would pay in East Lothian. It would shake out the hay quickly, and that was the great object.

Mr. DURIE said ryegrass hay would not stand a tedding. machine. It had been tried several times, and wherever it had been tried it had failed.

Mr. HARPER, Snowdon, said he had had some experience in the management of meadow hay, and it had caused him more anxiety than the other. In the event of a severe winter, the loss of the meadow would be felt to be a very serious loss indeed in his district. He concurred very much

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