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in Gray's-Inn-lane, and another in was, because I could not see Lord Gee's-court, or in the city. He said Castlereagh.—I did not call at Lord all Gee's-court were in it, but they Castlereagh's house, but I went three would not act till after the English or four times near the house, in order began, as they had so often deceived to see him. I did not see him, and them before. Gee's-court is inhabit. then I gave the note to Lord Harrowed by Irish. It is at the St Giles's by. I am certain that in Wilson's end of Oxford-street. He also said conversation with me, the words, “ His there was a gentleman's servant sup- Majesty's ministers,” were used. porting them with money, and if they The Earl of Harrowby examined would act on the subject, he would from the Bench by the ATTORNEYgive them a great deal more. He GENERAL.-I reside in Grosvenorasked me if I had a gun, and I said square, on the south side, near Charlesyes, but it was only a rubbishing one. street, next door to the Archbishop He then said they would provide me of York’s. I am a Privy Councillor, with a gun, and something to work and one of his Majesty's ministers. i with. There were, he also said, two am President of the Council, and one pieces of cannon in Gray's-Inn-lane, of the Cabinet. On the 231 of Febwhich they could get by breaking in ruary last I intended giving a cabinet a small door. He said there were dinner ; I think it was on Wednesday four pieces of cannon in the Artillery, the 23d. Only those who compose ground, and they could be very easily the Cabinet are invited to Cabinet dintaken, by killing the centinel.' After ners. I believe the invitations went they left Grosvenor-square, they were out the latter part of the week before, to meet near the Mansion-house. I but my head servant can speak to that was told to come to my time, or the more correctly. Invitations were sent thing would be done before I came. to the Lord Chancellor ; to the Earl I went to John-street that evening. of Liverpool, the First Lord of the It was nearly 7 o'clock. The entrance Treasury ; to Mr Vansittart, the to Cato-street is a little gateway from Chancellor of the Exchequer ; to Earl John-street. When I got there I saw Bathurst, the Secretary of State for Wilson and Davidson. I had seen him the Colonial Department ; to Lord (Davidson) before. Davidson said I Sidmouth, the Secretary of State for was come, and he asked me if I would the Home Department ; to Lord Casgo in. I said no, as I was going some- tlereagh, the Secretary of State for where else to look for some cream. He Foreign Affairs ; the Duke of Welsaid if I would go in, Mr Thistlewood lington, Master General of the Ord. was there. I asked him what time I pance; Mr Canning, the First Comshould be there, and he said 8 o'clock. missioner of the India Board ; Mr Ro. If I were not there in time, he said I binson, President of the Board of was to follow them down to Grosve- Trade; Mr B. Bathurst, Chancellor nor-square, and at the fourth house of the Duchy of Lancaster ; Mr Wel. from the corner, at the bottom of the lesley Pole, the Master of the Mint; square, I should find them.
and the Earl of Mulgrave; all these A note was here put into witness's are Privy Councillors. They are emhand, which he said was the one given ployed in the different offices I have by him to Lord Harrowby. It was mentioned, and also form what is callin his own hand-writing.
ed the Cabinet. In common parlance Cross-examined.-The reason why they are called his Majesty's Ministers. I gave the note to Lord Harrowby Oo' the Tuesday before the intended
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dinner, I was riding in the Park with. John Monument examined by the out a servant, It was about two o'. SolicITOR-GENERAL.-I am by trade clock. I went to a council at Carlton a shoemaker. I generally live near House. I am not positive as to the Brook’s-market, but I am now a prihour. As I came near Grosvenor gate soner in the Tower. I know the pria person met me, and asked me if I soner Thistlewood. I met him at the was Lord Harrowby. I said yes. He house of one Ford some weeks before said he wished to give a note to Lord the transaction of the 23d of February. Castlereagh, which was of consider. He afterwards called upon me at my able importance to him and to myself. lodgings. He was not alone. Brunt He then gave me a letter. After some was with him. He told me that he further conversation, he gave me a wanted to speak with me in private. card, with his address. I saw the man In consequence I went out of the room again by appointment on Wednesday with him, my mother and brother be. morning in the ring among the young ing at that time in the room with me. plantations in Hyde Park. The din. Brunt staid behind when I went out. ner did not take place at my house on Thistlewood then said to me, “ Great Wednesday. The preparations went events are now close at hand-the on as if the parties were to dine toge. people are every where anxious for a ther, until I wrote a note from the change. He had been promised supEarl of Liverpool's to my head ser- port by a great many men, who had vant, to say the Cabinet would not deceived him, but he had now got dine there. It would be seven, or half men who would stand by him." He past, at which the party would dine. then asked me if I had any arms. I
Cross-examined by Mr Curwood.- said, “ No, I had not.” He said, that I had some general knowledge of some every man of them—that is, of those conspiracy, or something of the kind, who were attached to him—had arms, going on before this. I do not know pikes, pistols, or sabres ; and added, a person named Edwards. We had that I might buy a pistol for four or some general information a consider- five shillings. i said that I was too able time before this, that some plan poor to buy one. He replied, that if was in agitation, but we did not know such were the case, he would see what the time at which it was to take place, could be done for me. Brunt called or the particulars. I will not say to upon me again in four or five days. two months. It was some consider. He said that he could not stay long able time before this.
with me; there were several more John Baker examined by the At- men of his trade waiting to see him on TORNEY-GENERAL.-I am butler to this business, and he must call on them. Lord Harrowby. The cards of invi. I did not see him afterwards for some tation were issued for the Cabinet din- time. He called, however, again upon ner on the 18th or 19th. It was about me on the Tuesday previous to the eight in the evening of the 23d when 23d. I then told him that I thought I first knew that the Cabinet were not I had lost him, as he had staid away to dine at my Lord Harrowby's. The so very long. He replied, that owing preparations went on for it till then. to the King's death, an alteration had The Archbishop of York lives next taken place in their plans. I asked door to my Lord Harrowby's. I can't him what those plans were. He said say whether 'his Grace had company that I should know them better at a on the 23d of February. I noticed meeting to be held the night afterseveral carriages draw up at his door. wards, than he could tell me. I asked him where the meeting was to be. He was to the House of Commons. He said at Tyburn-turnpike. He did not said, “ No, there were too many soltell me what was to be done there. I diers near there." I again pressed him asked him, if I was to see any persons on the subject, and he said that they there how I was to know them as were going to Grosvenor-square, as friends, and requested him to give me there was a Cabinet-dinner there that the word. Brunt then told me, that evening. I did not ask him any more if I saw any persons about, I was to questions ; for, on his saying that, I say bou-t; and if they were friends, was satisfied for what purpose they they would say t-o-n. He would, were going. We then went to Catohowever, call on methe following morn- street. Under the archway I saw two ing, and tell me more particulars. On men, whom Tidd appeared to know. the Wednesday afternoon, between He spoke to them; and after a few four and five, he did call again : he moments we all went into the stable came by himself. He called me down together. There were in the loft and stairs, and asked me if I was ready to stable about 24 or 25 persons. I had go. I said, “ No, I have got some not been there long when some one work to do, and it must be done be- proposed to count the numbers asfore I go.” He asked me how long sembled. Thistlewood replied, that it would be before it was finished. I there was no occasion to do so, as he said, that it would be done about six knew that were about four or five and o'clock. He then said, that he could twenty persons in the room. There not wait for me so long-that I must was a person in a brown great-coat therefore come to the place appointed sitting on a carpenter's bench, who along with the man to whom he had spoke of the impropriety of going introduced me; that man's name was with so small a number to Lord Har. Tidd. He charged me not to be rowby's. Thistlewood replied, there later than six o'clock, as Tidd had were quite enough of them. He only others, as well as myself, to take with wanted 13 to go into the room; and, him to the place of meeting. I went supposing Lord H. to have 16 serto Tidd's at half past six, who com- vants, that number would be quite plained that many men had disappoint- enough to master them. The man in ed him. We waited till seven, but no the brown coat said, “ After we have person came. Tidd then went into a done, there will be a crowd about the corner of the room, took out a large door, how are we to make our escape ?" pistol, and stuck it in a belt which he Thistlewood said, “ You know the wore round his waist. He also took larger body is already gone to arrange out four or five pike-heads, which he matters; we, the smaller, are left to wrapped up in brown paper. He took do the business.” Davidson then also several shafts, four or five feet blamed the tall man in the brown long. We then went out, along Hol- great coat for throwing cold water on born, and up Oxford-street. 1 asked the plan; and added, that if he was him, in his room, where we were go- afraid, he might as well go away. ing. He said, to a room in a mews in Brunt said, “ Rather than give up the John-street, Edgeware-road. When business, I will go to the house and we got into Holborn, he gave me the blow it up, though I perish myself in pike-shafts, and told me to take care the ruins,---for you know we have got of them. I asked him again, as we that which can easily do it.” The man were going along, where we were go- in the great-c pat then said, as they ing; and wanted to know whether it were all for it he would not oppose it. He then proposed that all in the him the key. He opened the door, room should put themselves under the and we entered. There was a cuporders of Thistlewood. Upon which board in the room, out of which was Thistlewood said, that all engaged in taken a ball, wrapped up in yarn. the business were equal, and should Harrison told me the purpose for have the same honour as himself; and which it was intended, and called it a proposed that 14 should volunteer to grenade. Shortly afterwards Thistlego into the room at Lord Harrowby's. wood, Davidson, and a few more came Those that volunteered were to range in. Davidson had a blunderbuss, a pair themselves on the side in which the of pistols, and a bayonet in his sidefire-place stood. They did so in the pocket. Others also came in, but I course of a few minutes. Whether did not know their names. [The wit. they were exactly 14, I don't know. ness was here told to look into the I heard nothing said of what the rest dock, and see if he could identify any were to do. On somebody asking that of the prisoners as being then present. question, Thistlewood replied, that He instantly identified Brunt.] On they all knew their places. Thistle- Davidson's saying that he had only wood then went out for a few mo. given 12s. for his pistols, Brunt said ments. On his return, he said that he he would go out and buy a pair. I had received intelligence that the Duke had some conversation with Thistle. of Wellington and Lord Sidmouth wood about the hand-grenades. This had arrived at Lord Harrowby's. I tlewood said, that some of them were was myself taken in custody into the to be thrown into the horse-barracks, room.
and others into Lord Harrowby's Thomas Dwyer examined by Mr house, to set fire to it, and blow it GURNEY.–1 live in Cheese-court, up. Thistlewood asked me how many Oxford.street. Some time in February of my countrymen I could muster, as I became acquainted with Davidson. he should want some of them at half He introduced me to Thistlewood. past eight that evening. I told him We went together to a public-house that I could muster about 26 or 27. at the end of Molyneux-street, not far He told me that they, meaning him. from Cato-street. This might be about self and friends, were to assemble at the 9th, 10th, or 11th of February. the Horse and Groom ; and ordered Thistlewood said nothing particular me to be at the Pontefract Castle, at to me at that time. He observed, that the end of Barret's-court, a house he had been in four or five revolutions, much frequented by Irishmen. He and that Ireland was in a disturbed told me that I was to pick out the state. I am an Irishman. Thistlewood best of my countrymen, and go to the said, that he had a good many of my Foundling Hospital, knock at the countrymen with him. He pressed me porter's Lodge, put a pistol to his to go with him also. I saw Davidson breast, and turn on to the right hand, on the night before the 23d. He told as there were 25 or 26 stand of arms me that he was going to stand sentry. in the other lodge; these I was to The next morning I was called upon seize. At the same time another party by a person, who took me to Fox- would secure two pieces of cannon court, Gray's-Inn-lane. He was a tall which were in the Light Horse Riding man, and his name is Harrison. We School, Gray's - Inn-lane. Another went into a two pair back room; the party was in the meantime to go to room door was locked. He knocked the Artillery-ground, Finsbury, and at another door, and a woman gave seize what was there. He also men.
tioned that there was to be a Cabinet- were 24 or 25 persons present. The dinner at Lord Harrowby's, and that size of that room is 15 feet,-five one the party there were to be attacked. way, and ten feet ten the other. There After this I saw a bundle, containing are two rooms adjoining this, separated gun-powder, taken out and laid upon by doors. When I got into the room, the floor ; a tin measure iras produced, I said, “We are officers ; seize their and several smaller woollen bags were
I saw in the room Thistlefilled with it. This was done by Har- wood, whom I have known for four rison. I afterwards heard Thistlewood or five years. Thistlewood was stand. give directions generally to them all. ing, at the time we entered, at the He said that a dozen pike-handles right hand side of the table, near the were to be taken to Mary.la-bonne, door of the little room. On my saying some others to Finsbury, and some we are officers,” he seized a sword, elsewhere. I was asked, but refused, which was drawn, and retreated to the to take some of them. I saw a bag; little room. The sword was a very and the powder which had been mea- long one, and rather bright. He stood sured out, and also the grenades, in the entry of the door, fencing, to were put into it. I heard directions prevent any one's
approach. Smithers given to a man by Harrison, to take approached him. Thistlewood stabbed something to the Horse and Groom, him, and Smithers fell, saying, “ Oh, at the end of Cato-street. In the my God! I'm done,” or something to mean time, another person went out to that effect. Somebody from the corner get the pike.handles. I got back to of the room where Thistlewood stood my own place at 12 o'clock. I told said, “ Put out the lights-kill the Major James of what I had seen and b- -rs, and throw them down stairs.” heard ; in consequence of what he said, The lights were then put out ; I join. I went to the Secretary of State about ed in their cry of " kill them, and one, or half past one o'clock that day. rushed down stairs. I did not observe
George Ruthven, the police officer, any thing till I got into John-street, was then examined by Mr BOLLAND. where I met the soldiers, whom I - I went, on the 23d of February, to brought. Several shots were fired Cato-street. Three others were to meet from the corner of the room where me there. When we were all assembled, Thistlewood was standing, I think, we were about 12 of us. I went into the down the stairs. On arriving a sestable, and saw a man with a sword by cond time at the stable, I met Tidd his side, and a blunderbuss on his grappling with one of the military. I shoulder. I saw one man below, and secured him. I was afterwards in the I have some faint recollection that I public house, (Horse and Groom) and saw another. The whole of my party saw Bradburn brought in. On him followed me into the stable. On see- were found six ball-cartridges, and ing the man with the blunderbuss on three balls. Davidson and Wilson were his shoulder, I told some of the party brought in. Davidson sang a song. I to secure him. I went up a ladder then went back to the loft, and found which led to a loft. When I got there there Shaw, Strange, Cooper, MonuI saw several men; heard the clatter. ment, and Bradburn. I saw arms in ing of arms, and saw swords and pis- the hands of several persons. I found tols. Three or four of my party went two swords and a bag. The bag conup with me. I am sure that Ellis and tained ten hand-grenades. I also found Smithers were with me. From the view balls and fuses. They were brought which I had of the place, I think there to Bow-street, and remained since in