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Was it his duty to take orders from lowed to consult his memoranda. The you?-Yes.
witness was recalled, and questioned as to Do you know where Bergami slept on these memoranda, which he stated, with board your vessel ?-On the return from some confusion, to be only partial, but Jaffa, I do not know where he slept. faithful as far as they went. The Solici
Where did he sleep on the other voy- tor-General then renewed his cross-exaage?-On going out, in the dining-room mination. The witness after stating, that
Allow me to ask you if there was any on the voyage from Tunis to Jaffa, Bergun on deck ?-Yes.
gami slept on a bed in the dining-room, Did you ever see the Princess sitting was asked :) on that gun with any person ?--No. Do you mean to swear that from that
Did you ever see her sitting in the lap bed the bed of the Princess, when the of any person on board that vessel ?-No. door was open, might not be seen ?-I
Did you ever see her with her arms should think not. round the neck of any person ?-No. Now, then, it is only you should think
Or kissing any person except perhaps not. Did you never stand in such a posithe child Victorine ?-No.
tion as to see ?-No. During the whole time you had the Now, under the tent on the deck, there management of this vessel, and the Prin- was a bed ; was there also a sofa ?- There cess was on board, did you see the slight- was a sofa and a bed. est impropriety or indecency in her beha- Whose bed ? I believe Mr Austin's. viour towards Bergami, or towards any Who slept in it? I do not know. other person ?-No.
Do you mean to swear that you do not Do you remember Bergami's going to know that the Princess slept in that bed? land at Terracina ?- Very well.
- The Princess slept on the sofa, not on Did you see him take leave of the Prin- the bed. cess ? - I did.
Near that bed ?-Not very near. Describe what was done on that occa- How far off ?-As far as I am from sion ?-He kissed the Princess's hand on that seat. leaving the ship, which was done by all Three or four yards ?-We will say persons on taking leave.
three yards. How long have you been in the navy? Will you swear that there was an in-Sixteen years.
terval of three yards, or any thing like You wear some orders; what are they? three yards, between the bed and the - The orders of Merit and Fidelity of the sofa ? ---Between the extremity of both King of Naples.
there was a great deal more. When did you obtain them ?-On the But was there more than a yard beoccasion of taking several privateers when tween the nearest point of both Yes, serving in the Neapolitan navy.
most assuredly, more than two yards. Did
you receive the King of England's Where did the Princess sleep? on the permission to wear those orders ?-One I sofa ?-Yes. have.
How did you know that? -Because I Cross-examined.-[The voyage from had occasion to see when I went in one Jaffa to Syracuse occupied nearly a month. night. He had not the original memoranda, but Is that the only reason you have for only a copy made in a voyage from Mes- knowing it ?-Having seen her there, I sina to Syracuse. On being strictly cross- conceived she always slept there. examined, he admitted, that it might be Who slept on the bed ?-I do not more than a month, and afterwards that know. it might be near two months. He was For what purpose was it put there?then ordered to withdraw; and Lord I have seen it used for the purpose of sitErskine urged, that he ought either to be ting upon it during the day. allowed to refresh his memory from his Do you mean to swear that it was put memoranda, or the House should take his there for people to sit on during the day? evidence with all its imperfections. The -I saw it used for that purpose. Chancellor agreed, that he should be al- Do you mean that it was placed there
for that purpose ?- I do not know any Do you mean to have it believed that other purpose.
you do not believe that he slept in the Did you never see Bergami in that tent ?-I believe he did not sleep in the bed ?-İ never saw him in the bed ; I have seen him upon it in the day-time. What is your reason for believing that
But you have never seen him lie upon he did not sleep in the tent ?-Because, it in the day-time?-No.
when I went to see her Majesty, I did Do you mean to swear that you have not see any one there. never seen him lie upon it in the day- Was it light or dark ?-It was dark. time?-I do.
(Laughter.) Had you never any curiosity to inquire Of what country are you a native? where Bergami slept during the whole I was born in England, but I ain partly voyage from Jaffa to Syracuse ?-No, I an Irishman. had other duties to attend to, such as na- Going in then only when it was dark, vigating the ship, to carry her Majesty and not seeing him there in the dark, do to different places where she went. you mean to say he was not there?- The
Have you any doubt that Bergami slept light from the binnacle was sufficient to in that bed in the tent during that voy- give me an opportunity of seeing whether age and the whole of it? I cannot say he was there or not; the light of the binwhere he slept ; I never went to inquire nacle shone in at the place where I openwhere he was, or what he did ; I can only ed the tent. repeat that I never saw him in bed there. Then you mean to swear that at that
I repeat the question. Have you any time Bergami was not in the bed ?doubt that he slept in that bed every night Yes. on the voyage from Jaffa to Syracuse ? - Attend to the oath you have taken, and I cannot state it.
answer me, whether upon the night when Have you any doubt upon the subject? the Princess called you, and when there I repeat the question. I certainly must was a light from the binnacle, you will doubt whether he slept there. I do not swear that Bergami was not upon the know whether he slept there or not, but bed ?-1 do swear it. I never saw him there, and I do not know Was that the only occasion when you where he slept.
saw that bed when Bergami was not Do you mean to swear that you enter- there?--I have gone there frequently tain doubts about his sleeping there? when called for, and have seen the bed When I never saw hiin there, I have rea- in the same position, and he never was son to doubt that he did not sleep there.
there. Do you mean by that to say that you You have told us you had the command believe he did not sleep there ?-I believe of the polacre ; who nagivated her ? --I he did not sleep there.
did. Where did he sleep?-I do not know. Who gave orders to the sailors ?-Ge
Did you ever see him sleep in the ca- nerally the captain, but the orders came bin on the voyage from Jaffa to Syra- from me. cuse? -I never went into the cabin to Did you do any thing more than direct see whether he was there or not.
the ship to be steered to a certain place Did you ever see him during any part to which she was to go?-I did not parof that voyage sleeping in the cabin? - ticularly direct her to be steered to any I did not. I never went into the cabin place ; I only gave orders to the captain to see whether he slept there or not. to execute the duty of the ship.
Did you ever see him one single night Did he not execute those duties as capsleeping in the cabin ?-I do not recol- tains generally do, by directing his crew ? lect.
I conceive he did. Then you do not mean now to repeat Then in navigating the vessel had he that you believe he did not sleep in the not the whole management ?-He had tent?
-I mean to repeat that do not not, because it was given to me her know where he did sleep.
You mean to say that you gave orders Do you mean that the log-book was a for navigating the vessel ?--Navigating private memorandum made by yourself? and manæuvring a ship are different - It was not exactly the log-book of the things.
ship, but a private memorandum. I conWhat do you mean by saying that you sidered it a log for my own private purnavigated the ship? -By navigating, I pose. mean directing the course to be steered, Then by whom was it kept? by yourself and giving orders to the crew occasion or the clerk ?—It was kept by myself and ally.
by my direction, but some of the entries Then you did occasionally give orders were made by the clerk. for navigating the ship?-Navigating in- I ask you whether he was an Italian or cludes manæuvring the sails as well as an Englishman ?-An Italian. directing the course which should be Did you not tell me just now that you steered.
did not know what he was ?-I believe he Did you direct the manœuvring the was either an Italian or a Sicilian. ship ?-Sometimes I did, sometimes not. Did you not, in answer to a question
Was it not in general done by Gargiu- just now, tell me that you did not know lo?-Sometimes he was not on deck, and what countryman he was ?-I had occasion to do it myself.
Mr DENMAN.--That question was not Was it only when he was not on deck that put. (Order, order.) you had occasion to do it, then ?--Some- The SolicitoR-GENERAL.-It was. times I have done it also when he has Mr DenmaN.-If I am called to order been on deck.
by the house, I must address myself to Was it not generally done by the cap- your Lordships. tain ?-As to the working of the ship, I
Mr GURNEY then read the former ques. think he generally did it more than my- tion and answer, and the last question was self.
repeated. Do you usually write in Italian or in Witness.I do not know what he was, English ?-In Italian sometimes. but I believe he was an Italian or a Sici
Do you usually write in Italian or in lian. English ?-In both.
You say he wrote only in part; was the You must perceive that this is no an- part which you wrote in Italian or in Engswer to my question. Do you usually lish ?- The part I wrote was in English. write in Italian or English? In Eng- Did you tell me that the log was writlish, generally, sir.
ten in Italian ?-Yes. Was the account you kept of the pro- Now you say that part was written in ceedings of the ship in Italian or in Eng- Italian, and part in English ?-Part in lish ?-In Italian.
both, to the best of my recollection. Was it written by yourself?--The ac- [The witness here became overpowered count was written by the clerk.
by indisposition, and fainted. He was I mean that account to which you re- then removed from the bar. ferred yesterday ?-By the clerk.
The witness, being recovered by the Was he an Italian or an Englishman? fresh air when removed out of the house, I don't know which he was.
was brought back. Some peers expressed a Was he your servant ?-No.
wish that he should be accommodated with How long were you on board the ves. a chair, but Mr Denman said he did not sel ?-Several months.
require it, being then perfectly recovered.] In the polacre, do you mean?-Yes. Witness, you told us in a former part - Was the account of the ship kept in of your examination that Pasconani was English or Italian ?-In Italian in the
your servant, and you told us in another log-book.
part that he was not your servant; be so Was it from the log-book you took good as to tell me to which of these stories those copies 2-Yes.
you adhere ?- I mean to adhere to both. By whom was that log-book kept ?- I
he acted as both. By myself. It was a private memoran- Do you mean, sir, to say that he was dum made by myself.
your servant, and that he was not your
servant? Is that your answer?--I mean but no more. The witness was then reto say that he was so far' my servant on called. board the ship that he took up and down A number of entries being then exastairs my coat ; sometimes wrote for me; inined, they were found to be all written but that he was not kept in pay by me as in Italian. a servant, for he was one of the sailors, Look at the paper, I beg of you, and see one of the crew.
if you can discover a single entry in it, You, then, as you say, having kept one during the whole of that voyage, in the part of the log, and this Pasconani tnc English language?-No, there is not. other, may I ask which of you kept the Does that paper come down to the regreater part ? --- I think I did myself ; but turn to Messina ?-Yes, it does. it is impossible for me now t) say, not "And every entry, from beginning to having my eyes on the book, it not being end, is Italian ?-Yes, in this paper. here before me at the present moment. I Now I ask you to look at this paper, may be mistaken, so I cannot say. and see if you can swear whether any part
But the most of it, you are sure, was of it is in your own hand-writing ? -No, kept in English? There was some Eng. I cannot say it is. lish and some Italian.
Then if you said a short time ago, and WILLIAM CARRINGTON, re-examined. at first, that the whole of the book was [The witness being reminded of his Italian, you said an untruth.
statement of not having been in the serMr Denman said he could not suffer vice of his Majesty previous to serving in his learned friend to cast this aspersion on the Poictiers, replied, that he understood the witness; it was unjust.
the question to relate to his being at sea The SOLICITOR-GENERA I. replied, that with Sir John Beresford. He had served as the question was objected to, he should also in the Namur and the Majestic.] not press it in that form; he would, therefore, withdraw the former question, and Lieut. Joseph ROBERT HOW NAM, put this instead of it:
[Joined the Princess at Genoa.
Was Did you not say a part of the book was roused one night by an alarm, first given written in English ? -I told you so, per- to him by Bergami, who came into his haps ; but what I said at the moment was On reaching the hall, he found when I was so circumstanced by indispo- the Princess and many of the servants assition that I knew not exactly what I said. sembled. Never saw Bergami breakfast Then do you mean now to say that part
or dine with the Princess at Genoa. He of the book was written in the Italian lan- first began to dine occasionally in a jourguage, and part in the English? is that ney over St Gothard ; and some time afwhat you mean to say ? -Yes, it is. ter began to dine regularly. The witness
Which is the greater part then, in the accompanied the Princess in the long voyEnglish or the Italian ?-I cannot say age.] with very much accuracy.
Do you recollect where Bergami slept Was there, however, a considerable part at Tunis ?-I recollect his pointing me of it in English?—I really cannot say; I out his room. think there was.
Did you see him in the room using it How much ?-I think as much in one as his own at the time? Yes. as in the other.
Was that room in which you so saw Do you mean to say that the greater him near the room of the Princess ?-No. part was written in English ?--About the Describe, if you please, the different sisame in one, I think, as in the other. tuation of the two rooms ?-Bergami's
[The Solicitor-General beginning to room was the only room up a flight of read the paper, and put questions upon stairs that any person of the house occuit, Mr Denman objected to this proceed- pied, I believe. ing. The Chancellor said that, while the Whereabouts was the Princess's room? witness referred to the paper, it was quite –There were several rooms between the competent for the lawyer to look over it, light of stairs and the Princess's apart
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ment; that is to say, they were 3 or 4 Was there any smell occasioned by the rooms apart.
animals being put into the hold ?-Yes, Was Bergami's room on the same story certainly. or floor as the Princess's ?-It was not. Where did her Majesty sleep on the
Did you afterwards, in the course of the voyage from Jaffa homeward ? - In the voyage, land at St Jean d'Acre ?-We did. tent on deck.
In what way did the Princess travel By whose direction was the tent put from St Jean d'Acre to Jerusalem?-Upon up ?-By direction of the Princess.
What did the Princess say to you?Is that the usual mode of travelling in As to the tent I do not care about it; I that part of the world ?-On asses or would as soon sleep without it. mules, or in a palanquin.
What was the occasion of the Princess's How did you travel yourself?-On a sleeping on the deck during the return horse.
voyage ?In consequence of the excessive Was the course of your travelling to heat and the animals on board. proceed by night, and to lie by day?-It Do
you remember any circumstance re
lating to the light being kept in the tent? In what manner did the Princess rest I do. during the day?-Under the tent.
What was it? The Princess in the Did you observe whether the Princess, previous part of her journey used to sit before she lay by for the day, appeared on deck till a late hour with this light. fatigued or not?-Excessively so. On leaving Jaffa reports were in circula
Did that appear the case during the tion of Tunisian vessels in the Archipewhole of the journey from St Jean d'Acre lago. I stated that it should not be kept to Jerusalem? -Yes.
on deck all night, as it served as a mark Did you make any particular observa- to vessels cruizing in those seas. tion as to the nature of this fatigue ?-I Had you, in point of fact, seen any Tu. have seen the Princess fall from the ass nisian vessels yourself?-Yes, we had more than once.
seen one at Scios, and another at St Jean Towards the latter part of the night? d’Acre. - Towards the morning.
you know of your own knowledge Do you recollect whether on your voy- whether they had plundered any vessel? age to St Jean d'Acre there was a tent on -I only knew it from report. deck ?-Yes, there was.
Did you, in the situation you held, On the outward voyage was this tent think it a matter of duty to give that adconstantly erected on deck, or only occa- vice to the Princess ?-I did. sionally ---Occasionally, to protect the And, in consequence of the advice, was Princess from the sun or wind. In fact, the light put out earlier ?-Yes. it was the awning of the ship.
What was the hour at which it was You reimbarked at Jaffa on your re- generally put out ?-It might be from 9 turn ?-We did.
to 10 o'clock, or later. Was the weather at that time hot or How many sofas were there on board otherwise ?- Excessively hot: it was the the polacre ? -Four. month of July.
Do you know in what part of the ship Had you any cattle on board the ves- they were placed ?-Two were lashed tosel ?-We had.
gether in the Princess's cabin, and two in What did it consist of ?-Horses and the Countess of Oldi's cabin.
Was there afterwards any alteration Had you more on board on your return made in their situation ?- The Countess than you had on your voyage
out?-We sent one out of her cabin. had none going out.
Where was it sent to?-It was occaIn what part of the vessel were these sionally on deck during the first part of animals kept ?- In the hold.
the voyage, and always after we reached Did they make any noise in the course Jaffa. of the night or the day ?--The general Do you mean that it was beneath the noise of horses and such animals.